Очень высокая плотность игры, погрузиться очень сложно
Установка прошла гладко, сверху поставил патч, новый DirectX и свежие драйвера (у меня Sapphire X800GTO, 2GbRam, Athlon3000+@4000+). После запуска и красивой заставки настроился на длительный процесс нарубания орков и сначала даже не понял в чём собственно дело, таких кошмарных проблем с текстурами я не видел пожалуй никогда, все наделённые анимацией объекты были окружены часто мерцающими чёрными полигонами, увидеть сквозь них что-либо было практически невозможно. Перезагрузка компьютера и игры не помогла. Решил попробовать немного побегать, авось рассасётся, не найдя времени покопаться в инвентаре (шла рубка стенка на стенку) бросился с кулаками на босса орочьего отряда, тот (видимо с перепугу) решил после пары тычков двинуть ноги (я начал на среднем уровне сложности). Завалив его оглянулся и что же я вижу: пара противников стоят и сверлят друг друга взглядами через угол дома, ещё несколько просто замерли на месте, короче такого бардака я никак не ожидал, тем более от славящихся своей добросовестностью немцев (хотя они ей больше только славятся, уж кому знать, как не мне). Короче даже не знаю что сейчас делать, сам рад был что игра выходит в срок, согласен мириться с багами, но это на данный момент просто неиграбельно.
Ладно пойду попью чаю, соберусь с духом и попробую ещё раз. Короче не поминайте лихом, буду держать в курсе...

Ннда. Даже не знаю что и сказать. Втянуться очень не просто. К графике претензий нет, звук просто превосходен, но пока-что как в анекдоте про фальшивые ёлочные игрушки - не цепляет: простору очень много но уже не хочется везде сунуть свой нос (в первых двух частях жажда исследований была для меня одной из главных движущих сил), тем более что попытка взобраться "вон на тот холм" часто оканчивается кратковременным зависанием и последующим медленным сползание по наклонной плоскости (как это ни печально разработчики убрали возможность подтягиваться, теперь или запрыгнешь или нет, не исключено, что для этого необходимо брать дополнительные умения, хорошо бы так). Очень серьёзные нарекания к боевой системе, не чувствуется разницы от смены оружия, всё-равно чем махать, главное, чтобы выдержала правая кнопка мыши (в этом плане деградация по сравнению с предыдущими частями).
P.S. Вместо того чтобы сидеть за игрой до утра, а потом идти на работу, иду спать (очень плохой признак).
P.S.S. А играть всё-равно надо, поэтому идите ка все отдыхать, а завтра со свежими силами за Готику

Всё верно, полностью поддерживаю товарища шамана, боевая система в первой Готике была превосходна (до сих пор помню своего первого падальщика, на котором я оттачивал своё мастерство). Считаю так же, что то, что разработчики пошли на поводу у своих обещаний и реализовали более сильного героя в начале игры (аргументировав это большим реализмом) большая ошибка, сильно нарушает баланс. Имхо реализм сильно портит неубиваемость героя: подбежал кабан, затыкал до смерти, постоял рядом, пошёл прочь, отойдя на два шага развернулся и набросился на начавшего вставать героя (убежать конечно можно, но фишка ведь не в этом).
P.S. Загрузка не нервирует: начальная чуть меньше минуты, внутриигровая меньше 30 секунд, подгрузы локаций очень короткие. За сим откланиваюсь, пора на работу...

I Hate Gothic 3!!!!!!!!!!!
okey... I Finally recieved my gothic 3 collectors edition today after whats felt like ages of waiting time... I'm a serious gothic fan and have already completed the two previous games several times, so i of course had to pre-order gothic 3..
But now i just have to get my anger out on something, because the game is completely unplayable!!! I got all the optimal system reqs but still it laggs like hell ! even though i turn the graphical settings on LOW it still laggs so much i cant stand to play for more than 5 mins. To top it all of the game even crashes down after from 5 to 10 minutes and jumps back to windows...
My computer stats are:
Intel P4 3,2 Ghz
1024MB DDR2 RAM
ATI X850
Its not the most advanced piece of system out there, but still i should be able to play the game without ripping my hair out of my skull 
SO PLZ !! I really hope there is a patch coming out soon to fix all this..... pls give me good news someone

Let me see if I get this right.
1. You place the 3 swords on your side of the trading window.
2. You place the 450 bread pieces on the *his* side
3. You hit the Trade Button
4. Your 3 swords go away, but you do not get the 450 pieces of bread
Is that correct?

exactly..

у меня амд х2 3800, 7600ГТ, 1 гб ддр 2 РАМ 667, самсунг сата II фп - Г3 идёт на средних(!) настройках с мелкими тормозами (2-5 сек) - не хватает рама

Well I´ve played the game for hours now and I gotta say its huge. For reference, the distance between Ardea (the starting city) to Montera (see the map, it is online) is longer to walk then from the harbour in Khorinis to Onars farm. And as you all can see thats just a tiny little bit of the entire Myrtana land, not to mention the rest of the Gothic 3 world (Nordmar and Varant). You wanted size? Well you got it.
I did apply the patch, but it didn´t help things out for me. Seems to be a game balance and other bugs fix. The massive amount of graphical errors is still present, the constant day/night switches and popping textures/shadows is still there and I could almost swear its slower/lags more now then before!
Looks like its gonna be playable for the common non-Gothic fan in about a months time I reckon. You gotta be a trua fanatic (like me) to play it now. Such a great game, and Jowood f***ed it up by releasing it now.
My rig: A64 x2 3800+/2 GiB/GF7800GT SLI

Just got the game today. Weee.
My first impression [after nearly 4 hours of gaming].
Confusing to begin with.
Due to spoiler alert i wont go deep on this and just say that for new people joining gothic, it can all seem abit confusing.
NPCs.
The NPCs dosnt feel that much "alive" as what was said in the dev trailers/blog (not where i am in the game anyway). NPCs do have a few duties here and there like sawing woods or a smith forgeing a sword ect. But beside that i dont see much life in them, i dont hear them chatting to each other when they stand face to face pretending to be talking ect. It all seem very "unreal", if you get my drift. They do drink and eat like in previous gothic games. Thats my thought pn how life look for the NPCs. It could have been alittle better on that part, imho.
Melee Combat.
Melee combat. Phew thats a tuff one, they werent kidding when they said it was hard to master it. I got slaughtered so many times to a couple of agressive boars that i almost went awire on my keyboard (no its aint fun after your 10th load^_o). Its a very difficult trade to master when its so diffrent from how other games handle melee, and it is going to take time to adjust to it.
Magic. No comments, i have no idea how you use magic. Yet....
Beside what iv said above, it really is a beautifull game. You got lovely graphic if your system can handle it. Good voice acting, great music theme and alot of quests to do. So a good deal of hours there. The combat is fun to once you figure it out, which may take a few tries. And what appears to be a big world, so alot of exploreing to do aswell. And bugs, havnt seen any tbh, but bugs are there to patched.
Dont go thinking i have just given you and opinion of the entire game. This is just my first impression of how fare iv gotten so fare. And how fare iv gotten is two small villages iv visited. I dont know how the bigger cities have NPCs acting, or how they even look. But ill find out soon enough.
My final thoughts on it. I recommend getting it, it has alot of good hours in it.
mets
I know you can disable/remove the hotbar by pressing the ctrl key. The compass i do not know.

I waited for this game for a while but was sorry to see some of the negative posts about its performance my comp is elderly AMD XP 2.1 1024G ram Nvid FX5700LE. Anyway purchased game locally today but have not yet installed the patch. Packaging was standard DVD case with slim manual as is the norm these days. Installation took about 10 minutes and went smoothly. I set the options to low detail and res to 1024X768. And waited with bated breath for game to load and......
It did, no problems at all intro played smoothly without any stuttering etc, finally arrived in game, I will give no spoilers here, I must say that what i saw on screen at the moment of entry into the game exceeded what i had expected given my computer specs. I admit the movement was not as fluid as it could be, but given that there were as many as eight npcs plus myself on screen at once the performance was more than i had hoped for.
The look and feel of the game is pure Gothicness for those who have played the prequels will know what i mean here. The speech i liked a lot - i felt with oblivion most of the speech acting was really bad, but here the voices seemed real and fitted the persona of the individuals, I actually wanted to hear what they had to say. I found no problems with the pickup animation at all, it works - thats it. The world is gritty, detailed and beautiful, those with high end graphics cards are in for a treat here.
It was clear from the outset that the music score was going to be good (both ways). The music is moving and fits whats happening - i usually play with little or no music in games, but found no great desire here to turn it off as is my usual. The combat seems to work just fine, animation speed seems about right to me - ranged weapons work well and and its nice that its not possible to wield every weapon from the outset - it gives yet another goal to work for.
I must say that from the outset i actually felt drawn in by the story and WANTED to pursue it in a way that i never did at the start of Ob, i cannot explain why this is - its just somehow seems to reach you on a different level, wether this is everyones experience remains to be seem, but for me it worked anyway. So overall my first 30 mins or so in the Gothic 3 world was a good experience - considering the lowly specs being used here. Hopefully the rest of my journey will be as rewarding also.

[May contain slight spoilers about the beginning of the game, nothing that could spoil anyone's experience though I'm sure]
I just bought the game earlier today and I've pretty much decided to put it on the shelf until I buy a new system early next year.
I'm on a 3 GHz P4 with 1 Gb RAM and a Radeon X1600 Pro - not a fast computer by any means these days, but able to squeeze more or less acceptable framerates out of even Oblivion in the wilderness with most settings slightly below medium (and running at 1440x900, the native resolution of my monitor).
I figured I would start out modestly with Gothic 3 at medium settings (and the resolution a notch lower, 1280x800), and was greeted with something resembling a slideshow (after waiting nearly two minutes for the loading bar to fill up and the intro movie to begin, subsequent loading times where terribly long as well) - 8-12 fps according to Fraps.
Now granted, there are several NPCs in this scene and it's in a small village with plenty of objects around, so I tried the settings at the lowest possible, and got an incredible ~20 fps.
After the intial short battle I was able to move around the village freely. I cranked the settings back up to around medium (fiddled around with custom settings a bit) and upped the resolution to 1440x900.
Framerates around 18-25, but even in the high end of that range it didn't seem quite smooth in the village but rather so jerky that my easily triggered motion sickness actually kicked in slightly, something I don't experience in eg. Oblivion when the framerate drops into the teens.
Moving out into the landscape I got a much better 30something, but that was with low vegatation and horrible landscape and object popups (same deal with objects in the village at medium settings, sometimes I damn near needed to stand right in front of a table before the plates and food sitting on it appeared), and the game at those settings pretty much looked like something that was made five or six years ago.
If I recall correctly Gothic 2 actually looked significantly better than what I saw in this admittedly very brief period of time in Gothic 3, and that was on much older hardware.
Sorry for this rant, but I was looking forward to playing this game and seeing how remarkable something like Oblivion could look on even my dated hardware, I was expecting something a whole lot better than what it appears I can get from Gothic 3 on my system - which pretty much matches the recommended requirements spot on, and hasn't showed any signs of underperforming or being underoptimized in other games I've played recently.
Well, I might give it a second try later today, but I can't say this first impression left me feeling particularly inspired to load it up again, even if there could very well be a really great game waiting in there.
Playability and decent graphics (relative to what you should be able to expect) are two very important factors if I am to enjoy a game.

My PC is a bit old - AMD 2.1, Nvid 5700LE and 1GB of Ram. So it was with excitment mixed with a dose of apprehension that I slipped the disc into the tray and watched the screen, the install was smooth and took about 10 minutes to complete... now the big one, was the game going to run y/n?

Hooray, after a rather long black screen pause, started the credits, then on into the intro, suprisingly the intro played very well, no stuttering locking, wow so far so good! Then the game presented me with a menu with game options, I checked the default settings: video default for my pc was 1024X768 85hz at low detail. I left it at that for now and started a new game!

To my utter suprise the game started with no problems and even looked good. Without giving anything away about what was going on the screen well... I just stood watching and enjoying the sights and sounds. I began to feel drawn into the game world from the get go, I knew what was going on and wanted to be part of it...excellent!

I decided to explore the local area and on entering a building my attention was taken by movement outside. How did I see things outside when I was in a building? Yay I was looking through a window and could see what was going on outside, it felt so right, so much better than having inside and outside cells! Amazing how little things make a difference!

Checking a chest I noticed the open and pickup animations were fine and it was easy to drop items into the chest as well, (I made a note to come back later and see if they are still there) lots of stuff around to check out.

I climbed to the top of a lookout tower and had a look around, the environment is very gothicesque, gritty and dare I say wartorn, the musical score in the background was excelling in mood and pace. I went back down to talk to some of the npcs to check the voice acting, no complaints here either, each character seemed to have the right type of voice (Ob players will know what I mean here lol). I found myself actually wanting to engage them in conversation not just wanting to get info and go, almost wanting more conversation options than were available.

I went outside the settlement to try a bit of combat, it was here I noticed one or two graphic glitches, and possibly the movement animations of the critters could be improved. Trying ranged combat, I liked it, the string/shot speed on the bow is fast so you can get a few shots off before the nasties get to you making ranged weapons well usefull. I didn't notice any particular problems with the combat animation of the hero, given low specs of my computer I didn't expect perfection, but hey I was able to play the game and most important I really enjoyed it!

Having picked up a few quests I now proceeded on my way to soak up a bit more of the game.

I have played pretty well every CRPG there is and from my short time spent in G3, it really felt this game is a worthy addition to any collection. The atmosphere is excellent and there is a believability about whats going on, asking you from the outset questions about how your character is going to interact with the world around. Myrtana is a dangerous place, and it feels like it. Im sure there are some bugs in the game, but its a big enterprise and hopefully with a few patches and better PCs the best is yet to come.

My score based on, a short, 1-2 hours of play:

Atmosphere - 10/10
Graphical/Environment - 9/10 (odd glitches and I did get the white screen)
Sound - 9/10 (maybe needs a few more like birds/wind etc)
Music - 10/10
Interface - 9/10 (well we all have our old favorites)
Manual - 6/10 (more info on the game would be nice)

Have it, too - playing for 4 hours so far -

stable release
heads of npcs look sometimes a bit too small in this big armor.
nice (and faster than expect) grafics on my older system:

resolution 1280x1024
2GB Ram PC 3200
AMD XP 2600 - overclocked from original 2083 to 2200 GHz
ATI x850 PRO AGP (shader model 2)
driver: catalyst 6.9

High detail settings - except:
shadows off
and vegetation quality low

I recieved my special edition one day early(many people in Scandinavia did I think), so I've played for some time now, here are the results:

- As has been pointed out by many, it has a bit of a "plastic look" like Oblivion. Also, unless you play on high details certain things are just plain ugly.
- The quest log is fairly bad imho, it only contains quotes from anyone talking about the quests, no additional info.
- The combat system is good, most of you should get the hang of it fairly soon.

It's all in all definetly a better game than Oblivion, but coming from me that doesn't say a lot, hehe. I like my experience so far, but I have one question about the english version: WHY, OH WHY did they change the english voices on all main characters? It was bad enough when they changed Diego from G1 to G2, but now every voice has been changed, even the nameless hero. Diego, Gorn, Milten, Lester, they all sound weird now, sure I'll get used to it, but still.. they feel like average NPCs now, not who they were back in the other games.

Other than that I have no complaints so far, and I'm enjoying the game.

Я играл в Готику несколько часов и должен сказать она огромна. Для примера, расстояние между Ardea (стартовый город) до Montera (смотри карту) больше чем расстояние от гавани в Хоринисе до фермы Онара. И как вы можете видеть это только крохотный кусок Миртаны, не говоря уже об остальных мирах Готики 3 (Нордмар и Варрант). Вы хотели размер. Чтож вы его получили. Я установил патч, но он мне не помог в некоторых случаях (ээ, извиняюсь тут не очень понял). Вроде бы ошибки игрового баланса и другие баги исправлены. Большое количество графических ошибок, постоянные переключения дня и ночи и исчезновение (выталкивание??) текстур/теней все еще есть и я почти могу поклясться что тормозов и лагов сейчас больше чем до этого. Выглядит так, что это будет играбельно для не фанов Готики примерно через месяц. Нужно быть настоящим фанатиком (как я) чтобы играть в это сейчас. Такая великая игра и Jowood – нехорошие люди, что выпускают ее в таком виде. Мой компьютер: A64 x2 3800+/2 GiB/GF7800GT SLI

Сегодня я получил игру. Ура!
Мое первое впечатление (после 4 часов игры)
Замешательство, во-первых. Из-за опасений спойлеров, я не буду глубоко вдаваться и скажу только для людей, впервые играющих в Готику – это может показаться немного запутанно.
НПС. Неписи не выглядят  очень живыми, как это было сказано в трейлерах и блогах разработчиков. Они имеют несколько обязанностей, вроде пилки бревен или ковки меча. Но я не вижу много жизни в них, я не слышу их, когда они беседуют друг с другом стоя лицом к лицу. Все это выглядит очень «нереально», если вы понимаете о чем я. Они пьют и едят также как и в предыдущих Готиках. Вот мое мнение как выглядит жизнь НПС. Мне кажется, это могло бы быть немного получше.
Ближний бой. Мда… они не шутили, когда говорили что им трудно овладеть. Я столько времени сражался с парой агрессивных кабанов, что готов был удавиться проводом от своей клавиатуры (это не смешно после десятой загрузки) Ближний бой отличен от того как это выглядит в других играх и им овладеть очень трудно.
Магия. Без комментариев, я не имею понятия как пользоваться магией, пока…
Несмотря на то что я сказал выше, это действительно красивая игра. Вы получите замечательную графику если позволит ваша система. Хорошая озвучка, великолепное музыкальное сопровождение и куча квестов для выполнения. Неплохое занятие для многих часов. Сражение довольно занятно, как только вы овладеете им, но это может потребовать нескольких попыток. И, как оказалось, огромный мир для изучения. И баги, мною не замеченные, но они лечатся патчем.
Не думайте что я выдал вам мнение о всей игре, это только мои первые впечатления, я посетил только две маленьких деревни. Я не знаю сколько неписей в больших городах и как эти города выглядят. Но недостатки обнаружились достаточно скоро. В заключении, я советую поиграть в Готику – там множество хорошо проведенных часов.
Я знаю, вы можете убрать/вызвать hotbar нажав Ctrl, по поводу компаса мне ничего не известно.

Well, I got 2x 1024MB and I'm not gonna cut one of them in half to test 1.5GB but what I can tell you is that the Gothic3.exe is currently (I got the game running in the background as I type this) using 1.2GB of RAM so 1.5GB should be fine and just as good as 2GB.

I'm playing with the release patch. No crashes, no freezes so far. The game is very stable and performing reasonably well with high details at 1280x1024 on my AMD XP 3200+, 2048MB RAM and a GeForce 7800GS. I deactivated the depth of field blur. Anisotropic filtering is at 1x or 2x (it doesn't say... there's anisotropic, then 4x, 8x, 16x so the first one could be any number between 1 and 3). Shadows are on max. Everyting else is also maxed.
I'm kinda getting the same phenomenon as in Oblivion, i.e. changing stuff like shadows to medium doesn't do much so I guess I'm running into system limits once again.
Even if I switch anisotropic to 16x it doesn't perform much worse. I'm getting fairly low performance across the board but it's playable. The only thing that was really bad so far was the opening battle but "mass battles" are always a bit of a problem (see Oblivion towards the end of the main plot).

What else... well, the game either stutters or stops responding altogether for a few seconds every time a new area is loaded. The same goes for change of daylight to night and also when you ignite a torch for the 1st time or when the weather is changing.
Overall, it seems to me like the whole dynamic lighting stuff (including bloom) is what's killing performance the most.
It felt like I had a better peformance at night and when it was cloudy/rainy than in bright daylight. Haven't run FRAPS yet but -generally- I don't think that it's going to 20+ FPS very often.
Still, it's playable even at low FPS because the low FPS are very steady/constant (except for the performance hits on area loading and lighting changes).

Gameplay-wise I can't say much yet. Haven't left the area of the first town yet as I'm exploring every inch of the world. It does -once again - take some time to get used to the new controls (they're fully configurable though) and the new combat system. I'm slowly getting a grip on it. It's true that it can happen that you get completely locked down in combat but then you just need to run away or -even better- jump away as soon as you get up from a knockdown or from being unconscious (spam the jump key).

Also, it does definitely make sense to use the bow first from a distance and then to draw the sword for melee combat when the enemy is in striking range. You just have to think differently. This is NOT Gothic I or II. You need to treat this game differently like any new game and not just stand there and hope to be able to keep shooting arrows in melee combat as in the previous games. That won't work here. Combat is more dynamic. You need to stay on your toes. Move, run, jump, whatever...

On bugs. Haven't come across a lot of bugs yet. There were some clipping errors in the 1st town where a fire was visible through a wall and some lip-syncing issues (German version). I also wish they would have used a different font for objects that you can interact with. This takes some getting used to as well. It's sort of hard to spot sometimes whether you are actually focusing on something or not. This makes it potentially easy to miss an item which is of course pretty much an 'A' bug for any true pack rat who just needs to pick up every crap they find lying around.

OK, that's it for some 1st impressions for now... off to play some more.

It's pretty annoying that you get dumped right into the battle of Ardea immediately after the intro stops playing. You have zero time to adjust your graphics to an acceptable performance level. You get a tutorial pop-up window that doesn't even pause the game(!) as the battle keeps going on in the background. There are enough friendly NPCs around so it's not really too dangerous but if you don't want to miss out on any XP then you need to hop in on the action ASAP.

The game seems to be very unbalanced. What's up with defeating the orcs in the beginning but getting absolutely raped (sometimes) by Bloodflies, Wolves, Boars, Thugs, Warans (the latter are very hard), Goblins etc.
It's pretty unpredictable. Sometimes you kill these critters with just a few hits and sometimes you get caught in a crazy speed attack frenzy where you go 'Ugh' ... 'Ugh' ... 'Aaarghhh' ... dead. Escaping by running/jumping doesn't always work. Sometimes the attacks just come in too fast and when you're knocked down, well, it's over... reload.

- Talking about reload... the "quick" save and "quick" load are a joke. Saving must be 10-15 seconds and reloading about half a minute. It's very annoying to die repeatedly.

- Enemy AI and animations are unfinished. I was able to kill a couple of very strong enemies (400XP) with a bow. It's pretty much *exactly* the same bug as in Oblivion where you could shoot at enemies from a hidden position and never get aggro'd. Same here... except you don't need to be stealthed. This is only true for ranged combat so far. In melee they always fight back.

Enemies do have an aggro threshold so you can close in on a pack of goblins and then pull them 1 by 1 if you approach from a certain angle. What's funny is that if you run and break aggro then they will move back to their original position like they're on rails (or they will not move/walk back at all sometimes).

- Ran into a pretty weird display bug. There is no water line at the ocean. The hero starts wading in the shallow, invisible water or swimming in the deeper, invisible water at some point but the water's just not there. Nada. There is a blue line a little further out so you can tell that you're near the ocean but it's pretty buggy.

Well, that's it for 2nd impressions. They really need to put some very serious work into the combat system. The current system is a pretty poor joke at the moment. OK, it's playable but it's not much fun when fights are so totally random. Well, at least that CAN be patched.
What's much worse is the weird beginning of the story and the inconsistencies as mentioned above. I'm definitely a little disappointed that they didn't put more thought into it. Maybe it will all become more clear later what happened to the ship and stuff but it's really, really weak so far... from the intro to the first conversations. It's just plain weak. Period.

I hope that they are going to issue a statement about the current state of the game and future patch plans tomorrow (or today = 10/13). The combat system needs tons of work. Fast. I really hope that they're going to have some good news for us tomorrow instead of hiding away from the shitstorm that is certain to break out by tomorrow night at latest.

I just downloaded the new patch(a patch before release, neat), and I'll try that out now. I'll keep you posted if I find out anything important.

Not a single crash so far, no errors, nothing at all.

By lag I mean I mean low fps in bigger fights - not by my own, but during rebellions and such where you have allies and enemies fighting all over the place. During normal circumstances I have nearly no lag except when entering new zones, then it stops for a short moment and then goes on. Also, saving/loading games takes some time. Finally they have implemented a quick save option by default(had to activate it in the .ini file in G2), so I use that a lot, which means quite a few pauses, hehe.

Still, no real performance issues, seems a that has been fixed from the first goldmaster to the second, as people mentioned lots of performance problems in the first goldmaster.

Also, you should be fine with 1,5gb, as long as you have a decent graphics card. I run at high settings(almost everything maxed) on my 2gig, GeForce 7800GT and it's smooth.

Edit: Removed my spiler, it basically just posts the same as Hagen just did.

Regarding combat, I'm getting the hang of it now, and I love it. Taking on things that are way above me, especially the group combat works extremely well.

Hagen - to kill beasts, start off with a bow, back away untill you've killed 1-2 beasts in a pack, then switch to sword and use the fast attack non-stop. I used to have difficulties with boars and such, but now I clear minecrawles etc with ease. If you have to, kill a few in the pack with bow, run away, and then start over. I kill most beasts with my bow, and use sword + shield to kill humanoids(humans, orcs, etc).

It's stuff like this which really makes me love Gothic, you have to think to be a good fighter, learn tactics and such. I can assure everyone that PB stayed true to that - you can take out packs of higher level creatures/orcs/humans if you're smart enough.

Truth be told, like G1-2 it takes time getting used to, it's definetly not an "easy" game, and you won't get far if you think you're playing Oblivion...

I'm fairly high level by now, can't find the dual wield trainer which is fairly frustrating, but I have no serious problems with combat or money. I made about 80.000 gold in the first 12 hours of gaming, and can buy virtually everything except the best armors. Skills and such is no problem to buy, the most expensive is 5000 and at this point in the game I can make 5000 by killing 1 guy(quite a few have Bastard Swords, worth 4800 at any vendor).

So far I've had a few fighting problems: Wild Boars(they are too powerful in my opinion, their attacks are too fast, they can even kill elite fighters easy despite being a "noob monster"), Dragons(waaay too hard for me), Ogres(hit extremely hard, only way to kill is with bow for me) and the harder kind of minecrawler(sandcrawlers and such).

Other than that I can give people one advice so far - fight in the arenas! Loads of xp, money, and rep in no time. I'm champion in every arena I've come across, and it's made life a whole lot easier for me.

The only thing I have to say as a negative thing after playing about halfway through is the whole english-new-voice-over thing(the voices are good, just not on the main chararacters since they have new voices), and the fact that certain creatures seem to be "way out of their league" - wild boars are a lot harder than snappers, elite orc warriors etc, because of their extreme attack speed and knockdown skill. If they hit you in the back... RUN! Hehe.

Regarding magic - I'm playing a fighter for the Hashishi, so I haven't used magic, but I have found trainers and such to enhance magic powers. Magic is the way it always has been though, very powerful but when you run out of mana(scrolls in my case), you had better run. I feel that there are not enough beds for magic users, as they burn through mana fast and have to go quite a while before finding a bed to rest in. Of course, you can buy/find/make mana potions to get more mana, but I'm a greedy guy so I always end up using potions only as a last resort.

My next game will be a magician(after I finish my melee combat character sometime tomorrow, probably), so I'll update with a few impressions of high level magic later if people still need info on it by then.

Короткий щелчок правой кнопкой мыши — быстрая атака.
Короткий щелчок левой кнопкой — стандартная атака.
Длинный щелчок левой кнопкой — мощный удар.
Удержание правой кнопки и короткий щелчок левой — быстрая атака из блока или специальная атака.
Удержание правой кнопки мыши и длинный щелчок левой кнопкой — колющий удар или убийство противника, находящегося на земле.
Удержание правой кнопки — блок.

Практически любой квест можно закончить как минимум двумя разными способами.

Резюме - боевая система багнута и явно не готова к релизу.

Графика. Мне особо не с чем сравнивать (т.к. я не играл в Обливион). Но все очень потрясает.

Шныг, развалившийся на коряге возле моря. Олени, выходящие из леса поблизости. Неимоверное количество трав, которые можно собирать, и которые ничем особо не выделяются среди другой бесполезной травы. Поджаривание мяса на костре. Блики солнца на мече. Почесывание задницы протагонистом и звучный чих, который пугает оленей - все создает неповторимое окружение. Я спрошу у вас - было ли это в Обливионе и что вы мне ответите?

- Готика 3 - она как... Офисный стул! Удобно, функционально, везде ручечки, можно под себя настроить. Но пока скучно.
- А какая Готика 2?
- Готика 2 - она как старое кожанное кресло. Неповоротливое, тяжелое, где-то протертое, где-то дырявое. Но уютное! И неповторимый запах...
- А Готика?
- Готика? Хм... Садовая скамейка. Жестко... Занозы... Дует. Но на ней вырезаны наши имена!

Тут нам дали свободу,такую же,как в TES.

>> Вален Варион:
Огроменная просьба не превращать эту, пока еще, конструктивную и интересную тему в очередную площадку для меренья имхами! Для Вечной Великой Войны За Справедливость и Все Такое есть другие темы.

Вообщем-то Готика-игра не для всех

Наконец-то и ко мне в руки попал диск с Gothic III. После установки никаких замудренных операций не пришлось делать. Игра запускается с обычного exe'шника. Первое что меня удивило, так это русский перевод. Но я и до этого уже догадался - он машинный. Так что поставил английскую версию.

В меню, в настройках видео сразу выставил все на максимум, в том числе и анизотропную фильтрацию на 16x. После нажатия на кнопку Новая Игра, Готика прилично грузилась, где-то 6 минут. Полоска загрузки дошла до своего финала. Сразу послышались голоса, удары мечей, но картинки так и небыло. Только после пары секунд на экран вылезла картинка. Сразу начались лаги, тормоза. Все, подумал я, надо ставить на средние. Но после 7 минут игры все оказалось не так плохо. Игра пошла плавно, где-то 20-30 fps. Я даже сам удивился. Система у меня такая.

Особых багов в геймплее пока не заметил, а вот графических хоть отбавляй! Первое, на что обратил внимание, так это Blur и DOF на бекграунде. Видны пиксели. Надеюсь, это можно исправить в ini-файле.

И убедился, что Готика 3 - гадость! Она даже хуже чем Г1 и Г2(я не фан, так что извините, если кого обидел). Я настроился на комфортную игру, хоть на минимальных настройках(Семпрон 2800+(2000МГц), 6600 ГТ, 512 МБ рам). Но, неет! Игра мне сказала "Фиг, тебе, Доктор Венкман!!" Для начала, поставил на стандартные средние настройки, нажал New Game. Игра лагала.Я решил сбросить все на минимум, сбросил - графика ухудшилась, НО тормоза точно такие же. Я, не будь дураком, не стал сетовать на разработчиков, и в очередной раз взял прайс в ближайшем нормальном компомагазе.... Потом сходил к другу. У него комп - Атлон 64 3200+, 2 Гигабайта РАМ, 6600гт. Установили, запустили - Те же глюки и баги! Но, только игра начала идти плавнее! И все? Ну ладно, положим, Проц уже слабоват, 6600ГТ - не справляется, но было немного играбельней(не подгружал каждые 5 сек). Стали играть, и единственное, что запомнилось - Охота за яйцами Скавенджера, и смех над Руффкем Пиреводом.
Потом установил еще раз у себя, решил побегать просто так..... АИ - убогий! Стоит убежать от ареала монстра, как он убегает назад.....
Короче не впечатлило! Даже по сравнению с Обливионом 0 Готика 3 в Шопе, как говорит Задорнов....

Даже по сравнению с Обливионом 0 Готика 3 в Шопе, как говорит Задорнов....

Ой, а то вы все играете в Лицензионную версию! =)
Да какая разница какая версия? Они же ничем в плане кода не отличаются, только, возможно, взломана защита, да и не в этом суть. Суть в том, что опять нам кинули смрадный кусок в красивой обертке и с цифрой 3. Недоделаный кусок, от того и смрадный. 
>> Вален Варион: 2. Поддержу Trane'а, Обливион, конечно, не лучшая игра, но всё-же это прорыв в жанре RPG и в "игростроении" в целом.
Да, это прорыв....как прорыв дамбы - все кто рядом были утонули. Обливион - аркада, а не РПГ, все, хватит об еще одном ударе ниже пояса жанру РПГ.
Впечатление от Готики 3 у меня ужасное. Теперь немцев из этой конторы (Пирахья Байт? извините, но мне на их название.... все равно, в общем, как они там себя обзывают) еще сильней не люблю. Этот их шаг, по выпуску сырой игры очень плох, ибо тим они выказали неуважение каждому, кто заплатил за игру не 150 рублей, а 50 $.

Для меня Обливион это что угодно, но не РПГ, уж извини.

Уважаемый snovick не очень удачный пример про Г1. Нельзя забывать, что Готика 1 в несколко раз меньше и проще Готики 3, так что я щитаю там вообще могло бы обйтись без ошибок. И  не понемаю, где в Готике 3 находят столько ошибок, я играл в неё уже несколько часов, и не встретил глюков, кроме выше мной перечисленных. Готика 3 даже не разу не вылитела.  Вот версия игры в которую я играю 1, 07, 25755, 0 . Патч 1.8 пока ставить не пробовал.

Drrok а это тот патч который на миртане лежит, и серьёзно в 2 раза???? , а он ставится без проблем, или как-то по особенному?

P.S. то нибудь бился с людоедами? а то я на 10 уровне, как-то стрёмно

после патча всё грузиться намного быстрее и почти не лагает, хотя раньше было намного хуже.